Editor's note: This is an edited transcript of our interview
with Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist Berkeley Breathed.
The HSUS: To you, what does "flawed dogs" mean?
Berkeley Breathed: "Flawed dogs" means an unloved
dog, and that was the punch line of the book—that when you get
through it, you think I'm talking about the physical or mental
flaws or whatever flaws we might be kidding about in the book.
When actually none of the dogs are flawed, except for the fact
that they don't have anyone to love them. So that's what a
"flawed dog" was—a dog without love.... They're not without
[love] completely because there are a lot of very dedicated
shelter people working for them and taking care of them. But
they still need their companions, and they're flawed until they
find it really.
The HSUS: And do you have flawed dogs of your
own?
B.B.: Oh, we have nothing but flawed dogs. Except,
no, they're not flawed because they're completely loved. But,
yes, they are shelter dogs. Maybe you could make the case that
somebody thought that they were flawed when they brought them
back to the shelters...but it's up to the rest of us to
discover that they're not flawed at all and they're wonderful
companions.
We almost always had four [dogs] ... attrition has taken its
toll this year, and we're down to two. And children have been
added to the family. We're up to two children, so we're not
sure how fast we're going to replace the usual four-dog count.
But usually we have an entire barking house full of shelter
dogs everywhere.
The HSUS: The visuals in
Flawed Dogs are humorous
and interesting and a little out there. How do your visuals
come about?
B.B.: The book started by drawing the dog on the
cover who is missing a leg—with the putter replacing the
missing limb. That was intended as a production painting for a
movie, Flawed Dogs, which we're planning on building a
treatment for and pitching. After I painted that and had such a
great time with that, it occurred to me there are many other
exaggerations of dogs that we have seen in dog shelters that we
could concoct—as well as imaginary dogs that may have not
suited their original owners' needs and/or prejudices....
So that's what it was: How can I take the issue and make it
funny. And it's not a funny issue, so it's a bit of a
challenge. How can I take shelter dogs and make an amusing,
humorous book out of the issue without diminishing the
importance and the essence of the whole story.
The HSUS: You've always used a lot of animals in your
work. What do you find appealing about animals as characters?
B.B.: They're just far more interesting to draw. And
if you're going to be more silly with a drawing, somehow people
are always drawn to animals. I mean, Disney figured this out in
the '30s, and never backed away from it. Even in animated
films, which are an offshoot of what I do, they've discovered
that an animated animal is always more compelling a character
than an animated human. And when they forget that, it's at
their risk. It's almost always costly to the project when you
have too many drawn people and not enough animals. For some
reason, we love to see animals talking. And kids, especially
children, love to see animals talking, and love to see them
treated funny and with an irreverent sense of humor.
The HSUS: A possible outcome of this book could be
the promotion of shelters. Could you elaborate on that?
B.B.: Definitely. We hope that the children reading
this will come away from it with a better sense, especially
with the last image, that shelters aren't the dog pounds that
they might have heard about growing up from their parents; that
they're totally different things; that when they think about
getting their dog...that instead of running down to the pet
store that there is an alternative and it's far better....
They're going to probably come away with a better dog, almost
assuredly. And if they've had fun with the dogs in the book and
have empathized with any of them and wish that they owned any
of these wild dogs, they can pull back from their imagination a
bit and find dogs that are just as good and just as fun in
their shelters.
So I really hope that there's a link between the book and
the whole idea of shelters. And it's a fun link, and it's not
one driven by guilt or a sense of shame, but just one of being
illuminated about the whole issue. That's what humor does. It
brings people in without them being resentful of being brought
in.
The HSUS: We have a campaign, Pets for Life, which is
essentially designed to keep people and their pets together. Do
you think there are any messages in your book that will help
people who already have pets?
B.B.: Well, they'll appreciate them better. The dogs
in the book have been dropped off at the shelter, ostensibly
because the people imagined them as having flaws that they
couldn't live with, or at least some of the dogs are
characterized that way. The whole point is that the flaw was in
the person; it wasn't with the dog. These dogs are waiting for
love, and if some of them look sillier than the purebred down
the street, it is totally irrelevant to how this dog can bring
some love into your life.
Actually, the entire book, if you want to see this in
metaphor, is that everyone stop fussing about your looks, about
your looks and your dog's looks, and start appreciating each
other on the level that we should be. We certainly do it in our
human world. We certainly do it to women, too. Unfortunately,
it's strayed into how we see our pets. And the last thing we
should be considering about a dog is how perfect he looks.
The HSUS: And for all the cat people out there, how
come no flawed cats?
B.B.: You know, we've been talking about that, and
actually it's a built-in structural flaw in cats that they're
not as funny as dogs because they all look about the same. If
you were to wet them all down, basically you'd have the same
cat down there beneath all the fur. And imagine how many
varieties and shapes and bone structures of dogs there are out
there. It's just infinite. So I thought about a Flawed
Cats, and the fact is cats aren't flawed. They're all the
same. They're not perceived as having any flaws.
The HSUS: So for cats, it was a visual decision not a
...?
B.B.: Yeah. It was absolutely a decision by the
cartoonist that I can't think of a way to draw cats 18 silly
different ways. In my eyes, they're almost identical.... Their
faces are all about the same so the raw putty isn't there to
play with.
The HSUS: A lot of people in the book-buying public
have never been in a shelter and don't know what it's like.
What would you say to somebody who picks up your book and is
looking to get a dog maybe down the road? What does a shelter
have to offer for somebody who's never been in there and is
maybe a little fearful of it?
B.B.: What I would say is from my own experience with
shelters: The first shelter I was in was in Seattle at a place
called PAWS, and it wasn't what I was expecting. I was
expecting a much different-looking place, and here was a place
that was run by dedicated people who loved the animals, who
cared for them deeply, and cared for finding them homes.... And
the most valuable thing I found in getting a dog from a shelter
was that I could meet the adult dogs.... I could get in the
cage and sit down and let them get used to me and curl up in my
lap and bond with them before I even left the place.
And I never failed to walk out of the shelter without a
great, terrific animal that was everything that we had hoped
for. I never found the broken dogs that I thought were at
shelters. I was surprised at how whole these dogs were, and how
healthy they were and how happy they were. And for whatever
reasons, they were sacrificed. It was just a far better
marketplace to pick up a companion than a pet store.
The HSUS: So you admire the work that shelters
do?
B.B.: Oh, the shelters are absolutely essential. I
mean, they're my heroes. These people are, almost without an
exception, extremely dedicated folks that, if they weren't
there, I don't know what would happen. It would all be run by
bureaucrats, maybe, and they wouldn't be the ones to properly
care for these dogs.